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[EVP]

Prior to a Queen Mary event, I was sent this image from an anonymous source indicating they had snapped this while taking a tour. Thought I'd share this and hope to receive some analysis from our intelligent select group on PS.

Please explain what you think is going on here.

EXIF Data

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Filename - JonRoomB310[1].jpg
ImageDescription -
Make - NIKON
Model - E4800
Orientation - Top left
XResolution - 300.00
YResolution - 300.00
ResolutionUnit - Inch
Software - Adobe Photoshop CS2 Windows
DateTime - 2007:02:21 13:15:37
YCbCrPositioning - Co-Sited
ExifOffset - 236
ExposureTime - 1/2.2 seconds
FNumber - 2.70
ExposureProgram - Normal program
ISOSpeedRatings - 197
ExifVersion - 0220
DateTimeOriginal - 2007:01:11 20:15:07
DateTimeDigitized - 2007:01:11 20:15:07
ComponentsConfiguration - YCbCr
CompressedBitsPerPixel - 2 (bits/pixel)
ExposureBiasValue - 0.00
MaxApertureValue - F 2.73
MeteringMode - Multi-segment
LightSource - Auto
Flash - Flash not fired, compulsory flash mode
FocalLength - 6.00 mm
UserComment -
FlashPixVersion - 0100
ColorSpace - sRGB
ExifImageWidth - 1024
ExifImageHeight - 766
InteroperabilityOffset - 872
FileSource - DSC - Digital still camera
SceneType - A directly photographed image
CustomRendered - Normal process
ExposureMode - Auto
White Balance - Auto
DigitalZoomRatio - 0.00 x
FocalLengthIn35mmFilm - 36 mm
SceneCaptureType - Standard
GainControl - Low gain up
Contrast - Hard
Saturation - Normal
Sharpness - Normal
SubjectDistanceRange - Unknown
Thumbnail: -
Compression - 6 (JPG)
XResolution - 72
YResolution - 72
ResolutionUnit - Inch
JpegIFOffset - 998
JpegIFByteCount - 6053

Courtesy from an anonymous source

Edited by EVP, 09 October 2022 - 09:59 PM.

[Yaridovich]

I don't see a picture! just words and numbers.

[EVP]

Yaridovich, on 09 October 2022 - 06:42 PM, said:

I don't see a picture! just words and numbers.

I'm sorry Yari, but you'll need a proper web browser. Your Nintendo Wii isn't designed to view embedded images in php boards if I'm not mistaken.

[Yaridovich]

EVP, on 09 October 2022 - 07:34 PM, said:

I'm sorry Yari, but you'll need a proper web browser. Your Nintendo Wii isn't designed to view embedded images in php boards if I'm not mistaken.

Yeah you're right, but my browser shows some photos and doesn't show some photos, like it does show photos taken directly from a mobile device and posted here!

[EVP]

Yaridovich, on 09 October 2022 - 07:53 PM, said:

Yeah you're right, but my browser shows some photos and doesn't show some photos, like it does show photos taken directly from a mobile device and posted here!

This image wasn't shot with a mobile device. According to the EXIF data it was shot with a Nikon E4800 point & shoot camera.

[KlaineyGStudy]

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I am not sure what I am looking at but it says it was modified in photoshop  
Date/Time Original : 2007:01:11 20:15:07-05:00
Modify Date : 2007:02:21 13:15:37-05:00
Creator Tool : Adobe Photoshop CS2 Windows
Create Date : 2007:02:21 13:15:37-05:00
Red Tone Reproduction Curve : (Binary data 2060 bytes, use -b option to extract)
Green Tone Reproduction Curve   : (Binary data 2060 bytes, use -b option to extract)

Blue Tone Reproduction Curve : (Binary data 2060 bytes, use -b option to extract

[kevinscan]

Someone walking in front of the camera that's set on long exposure.

[PIT leader]

My instinct is that it's motion blur of a man in a suit walking. It could still be a shadow person of course, but the posture seems too stiff to be one and it's very rare that they're that  still whenever I've seen them (they usually dart around a room to avoid being seen.)

[Vlawde]

The bright lights down the hallway are overwhelming the camera, the person walking into frame doesn't have any back lighting, so appears black. Looks like they may be wearing a hoodie

[EVP]

I’d like to thank everyone willing to participate in this thread. I refrained from commenting until a sufficient time had elapsed with the exception of Yari’s viewing issue. I hope everyone understands.

KlaineyGStudy, on 09 October 2022 - 10:07 PM, said:

[spoiler]

I am not sure what I am looking at but it says it was modified in photoshop  
Date/Time Original : 2007:01:11 20:15:07-05:00
Modify Date : 2007:02:21 13:15:37-05:00
Creator Tool : Adobe Photoshop CS2 Windows
Create Date : 2007:02:21 13:15:37-05:00

I’m glad you looked at the EXIF data. We have more speculations in the paranormal than actual reliable data to go by. Clearly the file was at the very least resaved 5 weeks later but I don’t see any exposure or saturation values changed. EXIF seems to be fully intact. The Nikon E4800 could be set in 4 sizes.

2288x1712
1600x1200
1024x768
640x480

All image sizes are set at 4:3. It’s possible the image was sized down in Photoshop but it hasn’t been cropped. Reading EXIF can be helpful in making determinations but are guidelines because EXIF data values can be easily altered with an image editor.

kevinscan, on 10 October 2022 - 12:00 AM, said:

Someone walking in front of the camera that's set on long exposure.

Definitely the case here. The EXIF states a ½ second shutter duration. That’s plenty of time to create motion blur with someone walking into the frame. It appears the image was taken at waist height. It’s possible a tripod was used with the 10 second timer enabled or another person assisted with the shot.

PIT leader, on 10 October 2022 - 01:44 AM, said:

My instinct is that it's motion blur of a man in a suit walking. It could still be a shadow person of course, but the posture seems too stiff to be one and it's very rare that they're that still whenever I've seen them (they usually dart around a room to avoid being seen.)

There’s another image similar to this posted on the web.

https://www.pinteres...99366211117965/

I see this highly suspicious simply because what are the chances 2 images are snapped with analogous results. I suppose it’s possible but you would need some other supportive evidence to substantiate the claim.

Vlawde, on 10 October 2022 - 06:11 AM, said:

The bright lights down the hallway are overwhelming the camera, the person walking into frame doesn't have any back lighting, so appears black. Looks like they may be wearing a hoodie

Vlawde, this is almost spot on to my assessment. Strong backlighting will make an object fall into complete shadow. All it takes is a couple of stops of lights brighter in the background.

Here’s another example of this phenomena.



I made this in the foyer of a hotel hosting a wedding I was photographing. The proprietor at the front desk fell into complete shadow while walking into the back room. The lighting conditions weren’t nearly as exaggerated as the Queen Mary image yet the shadowed proprietor was captured without any visible detail.

In closing, I’m very impressed with everyone’s calculation. There just seems to be a rarity of legitimate images of the paranormal. With a long list of reasons why this doesn’t occur it’s a further disappointment when one suspects a staging.

Thank you for your participation

Edited by EVP, 11 October 2022 - 02:49 AM.