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Could The Police Officer Brian Coyle Have Captured The Soul Leaving The Body


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#1 KlaineyGStudy

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Posted 21 August 2017 - 07:11 PM

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I was watching this last night and thought this was worth sharing. The police officer sound credible! what do others think about it?
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#2 Jim@GhostStudy

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Posted 21 August 2017 - 09:08 PM

Well, if it's the soul leaving the body, he doesn't look to happy about it!  :D   and what's with the second face?

With all the blur... it would be hard to make a proper analysis. But looks impressive, that's for sure.  :)
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Posted 21 August 2017 - 09:21 PM

I saw that when it was on TV. That photo freaked me out.

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Posted 21 August 2017 - 09:48 PM

Yeah, it was interesting watching the interview with the policeman.

Jim, the police guy thinks the other face was like stages of the person in the accident. They also say there was an image of a labrador dog on the car door but no animals were noted at the accident scene.
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Posted 21 August 2017 - 09:56 PM

I lightened up the pic. Hope this helps.
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Posted 21 August 2017 - 10:26 PM

View PostJim@GhostStudy, on 21 August 2017 - 09:08 PM, said:

Well, if it's the soul leaving the body, he doesn't look to happy about it!  :D  
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They said he was 16 years old at the time  of the accident (1984), it was a few days after Christmas and he and 3 of his friends were off to a rock concert.  So they think he was yelling NO!
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Posted 22 August 2017 - 12:55 AM

that's a very intriguing photo, it looks quite scary actually
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Posted 22 August 2017 - 01:00 AM

There seem to be red and gold lines in the other images although they don't seem to show the entire images only pieces
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Posted 22 August 2017 - 03:10 AM

The face is interesting but what the officer calls "streaks of light" is actually motion streaks. Probably caused from squad car lights, reflective surfaces and slight movement from taking night shots without a tripod. The biggest contributor is almost always FILM cameras. And I would be willing to bet the farm (if I owned a farm) that he was using a film camera.  ;)  .....OMG, It's true, I am turning into a skeptic!  :yucky:

But like I said... I like the face... very cool!  :)

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Posted 22 August 2017 - 06:06 AM

Would this still be from the police car lights Jim?

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Posted 22 August 2017 - 08:28 AM

I can't say for sure, Klainey. But I can tell you this much, one of the tell tale signs when considering motion streaks (not supernatural) is to watch for duplicates of the streaks. That's what indicates the motion. The officer mentioned he didn't see anything like that in the view finder when taking the photo. duh.  :)

When I first started ghost hunting, I took a picture in a cemetery and it was full of beautiful & colorful streaming streaks. I posted it to the world and it wasn't long before photographers started coming out of the woodwork to tell me to buy a tripod for my film camera.  :)  And there were not any lights in that cemetery... just reflective surfaces.

I'm not sure if these types of streaks were ever really considered paranormal... well, accept maybe by me.  ^_^

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Posted 22 August 2017 - 10:50 AM

It is a very interesting photo, I've seen it before. But yeah, motion blur everywhere due to the overall darkness makes any light/reflective surface exaggerate any slight movement by the camera.
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Posted 22 August 2017 - 11:15 AM

If I may, it is obvious, whatever camera was used, the lighting conditions were limited and the camera automatically was forced to hold the shutter open for a lengthy time to expose the image. Even larger sensor full frame/medium format cameras that are well adapted to low light conditions would be tested under the above light conditions. If there is any movement, in front of the camera, it will be blurred and the highest reflective objects will be the first to expose. Once you couple in the factor of a human hand holding the camera, motion blur is further compounding.

Another factor that could be an issue is the optical effect a first curtain/second curtain shutter. You can create some very interesting motion effects with a flash under those circumstances.

The image was likely captured by a cellphone and I can say that with a certain level of assurance. Recent statistics suggest that 95% of all adults in America own/use & carry a cellphone containing an on-board camera.

I hate to be the negative Nick here but without any controls, this file can only lead to speculation and assumption. I cannot even begin to tell you how many times when I first started, how I was forced to throw out evidence because of contamination.

For those who say, we cannot set up tripods or use good quality cameras with triggers in a crisis, I totally agree. Regardless, we need to know when to discard and move on. I do not want to harp on controls too much but if we do not learn from our mistakes, they will continue to repeat
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Posted 22 August 2017 - 01:23 PM

View PostEVP, on 22 August 2017 - 11:15 AM, said:

If I may, it is obvious, whatever camera was used, the lighting conditions were limited and the camera automatically was forced to hold the shutter open for a lengthy time to expose the image. Even larger sensor full frame/medium format cameras that are well adapted to low light conditions would be tested under the above light conditions. If there is any movement, in front of the camera, it will be blurred and the highest reflective objects will be the first to expose. Once you couple in the factor of a human hand holding the camera, motion blur is further compounding.

Another factor that could be an issue is the optical effect a first curtain/second curtain shutter. You can create some very interesting motion effects with a flash under those circumstances.

The image was likely captured by a cellphone and I can say that with a certain level of assurance. Recent statistics suggest that 95% of all adults in America own/use & carry a cellphone containing an on-board camera.

I hate to be the negative Nick here but without any controls, this file can only lead to speculation and assumption. I cannot even begin to tell you how many times when I first started, how I was forced to throw out evidence because of contamination.

For those who say, we cannot set up tripods or use good quality cameras with triggers in a crisis, I totally agree. Regardless, we need to know when to discard and move on. I do not want to harp on controls too much but if we do not learn from our mistakes, they will continue to repeat

The only thing is that this was supposedly photographed in 1984. So it would be on film rather than digital.
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Posted 22 August 2017 - 01:49 PM

^^^True, the cop was saying in the video that at that time, the police department developed all their own photos. You would think if they did that on a regular basis they'd have a handle on basic photography and recognize motion blur and the lighting conditions.

I know I saw the video on TV somewhere, anyone recall the show?
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Posted 22 August 2017 - 01:59 PM

View PostVlawdeGStudy, on 22 August 2017 - 01:49 PM, said:

^^^True, the cop was saying in the video that at that time, the police department developed all their own photos. You would think if they did that on a regular basis they'd have a handle on basic photography and recognize motion blur and the lighting conditions.

I know I saw the video on TV somewhere, anyone recall the show?

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Posted 22 August 2017 - 02:03 PM

Agreed and I should have mentioned this but a camera is a camera in this sense and regardless the parameters and effects of film or digital still apply in the generated effect. The shutter would be dragged with this little light. I was shooting film in the 80's with an SLR. In those days I was using a handheld light meter. Don't miss them that much but I'm now back using a handheld light meter in the studio. Full circle I suppose :)

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Posted 22 August 2017 - 03:07 PM

View PostVlawdeGStudy, on 22 August 2017 - 01:49 PM, said:

^^^True, the cop was saying in the video that at that time, the police department developed all their own photos. You would think if they did that on a regular basis they'd have a handle on basic photography and recognize motion blur and the lighting conditions.

I know I saw the video on TV somewhere, anyone recall the show?

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Posted 22 August 2017 - 04:16 PM

Thanks, lorac and Klainey!  The name of  the show doesn't ring a bell, but I watch all kinds of shows like that, so I know I did see it
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Posted 23 August 2017 - 07:41 AM

It is an interesting picture but psychically I have to respectfully disagree.  I do not think it is a picture of the soul leaving the body.

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