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#1 Woodchip

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Posted 16 May 2022 - 05:35 AM

Hi all,

I have just been looking through a short session that I conducted a month or two ago. I have part of the recording inwhich after I say "Hello" you can hear 3 taps and then something say
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Now I found this when I was going through the recording with Audtion and I havent used anything to speed up or enhance the audio the only thing I have done is crop it rather than uploading the full session.

Does this sound like a spirit to you?
I used my laptop's microphone to record when trying out a spirit box app.

Let me know what you think :)

I will have a comb through some more recordings that I have and if I come across anything I will fire it over to the forum

Thanks

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#2 AimeeDeeGreenwood

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Posted 16 May 2022 - 06:42 AM

I hear it. I also hear the 3 taps after you call out, however I also hear a tap or two right at the beginning of the EVP so I'm not sure as to what that could've been, spook or not. The voice to me, sounds male and threatening. But it doesn't sound violent as the words were dragged, so more like a warning. Good capture, I think this is genuine

#3 Woodchip

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Posted 16 May 2022 - 07:00 AM

View PostAimeeDeeGreenwood, on 16 May 2022 - 06:42 AM, said:

I hear it. I also hear the 3 taps after you call out, however I also hear a tap or two right at the beginning of the EVP so I'm not sure as to what that could've been, spook or not. The voice to me, sounds male and threatening. But it doesn't sound violent as the words were dragged, so more like a warning. Good capture, I think this is genuine

View PostAimeeDeeGreenwood, on 16 May 2022 - 06:42 AM, said:

I hear it. I also hear the 3 taps after you call out, however I also hear a tap or two right at the beginning of the EVP so I'm not sure as to what that could've been, spook or not. The voice to me, sounds male and threatening. But it doesn't sound violent as the words were dragged, so more like a warning. Good capture, I think this is genuine

Thank you! I couldnt understand the tapping as I and the device was all stationary. I was thinking if the tapping was another spirit trying to communicate with the male spirit threatening the other spirit? Not sure :)

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Posted 16 May 2022 - 09:51 AM

View PostWoodchip, on 16 May 2022 - 07:00 AM, said:

Thank you! I couldnt understand the tapping as I and the device was all stationary. I was thinking if the tapping was another spirit trying to communicate with the male spirit threatening the other spirit? Not sure :)
That is an interesting perspective. The tapping could perhaps also have been the spirit trying to communicate with you; showing it's presence or trying to 'intimidate' you out of there or just simply making itself known if it hasn't been communicated with for a long time. Food for thought. You believe there was more than one spirit with you during that EVP recording? What made you aware of multiple?

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Posted 16 May 2022 - 10:02 AM

View PostAimeeDeeGreenwood, on 16 May 2022 - 09:51 AM, said:

That is an interesting perspective. The tapping could perhaps also have been the spirit trying to communicate with you; showing it's presence or trying to 'intimidate' you out of there or just simply making itself known if it hasn't been communicated with for a long time. Food for thought. You believe there was more than one spirit with you during that EVP recording? What made you aware of multiple?

Thats a good thought, I didnt think of it like that. I believe so, some of the applications I have tested before which have a word bank built in have stated there have been numerous spirits around. Had some very good results from the word banks including names of people who have passed that we are aware of.
What makes this one intresting for me is that you can hear the application after I say "Hello" but then the voice that comes through seems to go straight to the microphone. I was able to distinguish between the word bank talking as well as an actual voice by looking at the audio graph. The word bank is usually much louder.

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Posted 16 May 2022 - 10:24 AM

View PostWoodchip, on 16 May 2022 - 10:02 AM, said:

Thats a good thought, I didnt think of it like that. I believe so, some of the applications I have tested before which have a word bank built in have stated there have been numerous spirits around. Had some very good results from the word banks including names of people who have passed that we are aware of.
What makes this one intresting for me is that you can hear the application after I say "Hello" but then the voice that comes through seems to go straight to the microphone. I was able to distinguish between the word bank talking as well as an actual voice by looking at the audio graph. The word bank is usually much louder.
I appreciate the clear description of how the device you used works, it sounds like it's worth a use for any investigator. It does sound like two different tones coming from the same voice when I listen back, now I think about it. I wonder if that's because of the spirit affecting the device and partially entering our realm- allowing both our ears and the device to pick it up.

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Posted 16 May 2022 - 12:56 PM

Thank and it very well could be. I will have another look through the session, especially where the audio was captured see if any other voices came through :)

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Posted 16 May 2022 - 01:56 PM

Here's my take and suggestions:

I realize you wrapped the EVP with a spoiler but I'd highly recommend not revealing what you think you hear initially. This will influence others as to what they will hear and only validate your conclusion. Instead, ask others as you did in the thread and after sufficient time present "what you think you hear."

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Does this sound like a spirit to you?


I realize EVP work is controversial by nature but you're exploring ITC instead of EVP work if you're using a spirit box. These so called spirit boxes could produce sound from a host of reasons that are mundane in origin.

As to what I hear, it's not recognizable in what is said. At best it's SSP spontaneous sound phenomena which has limited value.

If you're really interested in good recording habits, I'd recommend buying a dedicated audio recorder with real-time monitoring during the recording. That way you might be able to identify mundane false positives as you record and making verbal cues of them during the recording. Listening to an audio recording without monitoring and letting time elapse before you review will raise the chances of false positives simply because our brain has limited memory abilities.

I'd also recommend recording at a specific time on each session. You might be able to establish a handshake using specific times. Include a passive and interactive session.

I have a posting in the EVP section of 42 questions you could ask. You're welcome to use them.

http://www.paranorma...showtopic=46583

Keep you sessions short 5 minutes of Q&A and 10 minutes for passive monitoring on both sessions. Most EVP captures tend to happen in the first 10 minutes.

There's another hidden value to monitoring. If you hear a voice you can immediately interact. Normally, the review process suffocates that ability entirely. What's the point of trying to interact with the other side if you're incapable of doing it?

Also, if you hear a voice while recording and monitoring, you'll have a capture called AVP Aural Voice Phenomena. They are more frequently intelligent in nature instead of residual.

Look for multiple words being voiced at a time. They are less likely to be a false positives as long as you make attempts of reducing false positives.

I can't overstress making attempts to reduce false positives by implementing controls. You'll develop good recording habits that will help you in the future. My recording equipment is very sensitive. I use dedicated phantom/condenser microphones that are capable of actually hearing someone's heartbeat in a room. Without controls and establishing them early, you will find yourself falling into too many rabbit holes.

Here's an inexpensive digital recorder capable of real-time monitoring.

Olympus WS-100

Feel free to ask any further questions if you wish. I hope this has helped.

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#9 Woodchip

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Posted 16 May 2022 - 10:07 PM

Thank you for the detailed post!

I will definitely look into them questions as I often struggle with what I could say next. That must be some powerful recording gear! I will get a recorder purchased soon and give one a go.

I made a bit of a mess when uploading the topic with all the title and spoilers but next post should be all good :)

Thanks once again

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Posted 20 May 2022 - 07:56 PM

I don't hear any words, just some noises.

Even if I assume you captured a verbal communication of some sort, it's unintelligible.