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Posted 06 September 2016 - 02:26 PM

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World's Most Haunted Location:
HAYSTACK LANDING, PETALUMA, CALIFORNIA


Historical Chronology:

Regional Native Americans considered this area of land as "taboo" and "evil" and warned early Spanish settlers and missionaries of its malicious forces. After a Spanish missionary was found dead from self-inflicted wounds after he attempted to cleanse(bless) the area, the area was kept clear from early travellers for over forty years.

When the early California government acquired the land by means of their own self-imposed Miranda Land Grant, the area was immediately seen as a prime location for early ships, boats and barges to dock, after sailing in-land from the San Francisco Bay. Water vessels could dock at the river's edge and have easy access to prime agricultural and foresting materials which could then be sent back to San Francisco. Early on in establishing this small docking site, several settlers had reportedly gone crazy and killed several farmers and innocent bystanders who happened to be nearby. They then turned on each other and were all found dead. As travellers and settlers passed through the small area of land, reports flooded in of encountering eerie apparitions, strange sounds and smells as well as foreboding sick feelings.

Even with the ongoing reports of terrifying phenomena, the site continued to grow, with an increased loading and unloading of supplies. In 1853, a mysterious gentleman known only as Mr Rudisville, built various storage sheds, barns, and the formal docking facilities for boats and ferries to dock. Because of the great number of agricultural materials, (specifically hay and grain) being farmed in mass quantities in the nearby flatbed fields, the area was given the nick-name of "Haystack Landing". A short time after completing the bustling docking port, Mr Rudisville was mysteriously never seen again. A variety of strange encounters continued to occur, ranging from unexplained deaths to bizarre illnesses, to being physically accosted by evil spirits - and continued to be reported on a regular basis for the next thirty years.

In the summer of 1864, the brothers Minturn, one of which was the local representative for the Contra Costa Steam Shipping Company, ignoring the unusual reports of strange encounters and warnings from local old-timers, obtained a steam train to push and pull carts back and forth from the river's edge. On its maiden journey to dock at the site, a freak explosion of the train's steam engine caused it to be almost completely destroyed, killing thirty men in the process.

For the next twenty-five years, not a month went by where some type of tragic mishap, unexplainable death or terrifying encounter with some type of supernatural phenomena wasn't reported. Two such events include:


- Several shanties on the property which were housing farm workers and dock-loading labour were mysteriously burned down killing everyone within them. Witnesses said they could hear hideous laughter as the people burned alive.

- Several children get crushed by a barge as they somehow fall between the dock and a boat as it was in the process of docking to pick up a load of hay. One surviving child states that he saw his friends pushed off the waters edge by a giant shadow that disappeared into the ground.


While a small hotel and saloon were being built on the property by some new owners, they decided to obtain an additional income by featuring bear and bullfights being held in a small neighbouring barn. On the opening night fight, several audience members were killed and others maimed when the bear and bull broke free of their fighting pin and attacked the crowd. The owners try to recoup the terrible tragedy by opening their hotel and saloon ahead of schedule but were met with disaster as all of it's sleeping occupants were killed in a fire after the structure was hit by lightning. The bones of the burned corpses were unexplainably found scattered all over the property as if each of their bodies exploded with the lightning strike.

In 1883, the Walls family acquired a large bulk of the property and began building a luxurious home upon it. Before any primary excavating could be done on the property, a freak steam ferry accident took the lives of the entire family as the boat was just about to dock at Haystack Landing.

With the installation of the Golden Gate Bridge, the Haystack Landing port became obsolete. For the next twenty-one years, unusual accounts of disturbing deaths and eye-witness reports of ghostly strange phenomena are noted. Two such events include:


- Several transients who live on the property in make-shift shanties are found having committed mass suicide. Carved all their bodies, presumably by themselves, were strange markings and gashes which could not be identified as explained.

- A sheep-herder who continues to try to steer his sheep onto the edge of the property to graze cannot seem to keep the animals to remain on the land and they refuse to eat the grass. After fencing them in overnight, the entire flock is found dead from unexplainable causes.


A wealthy young mechanical engineer purchases the property at an incredible price, ignoring the long history of unexplainable evil events. He decides to build his dream house for him and his wife with a beautiful view of the underlying river and valley. Carpenters spend triple the time that it usually takes to build a house due to unusual injuries and strange events that occur on the property. Finally, the house is finished to a point that the owner and his wife can move in, however, before he can even spend one night in it, he is recruited to fight in WW2. He goes to fight in WW2 and while at war, wife commits suicide in the house. Husband is one of the few of his regiment who survives the war and comes home to discover his wife is dead. The husband is also found dead shortly afterwards, having fallen down the stairs. The property is transferred to east coast relatives who discover that the house itself is worthless, having been plagued by massive amounts of termites and consider the property a complete loss. Twenty years go by with the property unoccupied and unmaintained.

In 1952, a Mr Keller lays out the plans for the proposed city of Petaluma, taking everyone's advice not to include the area of property located anywhere near Haystack Landing. In 1958, the city charter of Petaluma becomes official.

A wealthy landowner purchases property as a getaway from the city for him and his wife. The owner goes through several carpenters and renovators because they either become seriously injured or ill after working on the property a short time or quit for unexplainable reasons. After finally renovating the property to a point that is reasonable, the couple decides to spend their first weekend at the house. The couple is then found hideously murdered by being hacked up. Apparent murderers are two young men from Santa Rosa who were reportedly high on drugs. Weapons and physical evidence linking to suspects to the killing was never found, but the two young men were seen in the vicinity of a truck stop that same night.

The City of Petaluma and the Petaluma Historical Society refuse to recognize the house and location as a prime historical site due to it's violent and notorious past. In respect to the events that have occurred and in order to not perpetuate the terrifying history of the site and drive away potential tourism, they conclude not to discuss or maintain on record the long shocking supernatural history of the property.

For the next thirty years, as the property goes legally unoccupied, strange and horrific events continue to take place including:


A transient was found dead hanging from the rafters of the dilapidated house. The bones in his arms and legs were all found to be broken.

A caretaker who was hired by a company that acquired the property was found dead of an apparent heart attack at the back entrance of the house. the day before his death he had reported to police hearing bizarre cries coming from the property.

Two years later, two more transients were found dead in the house from an apparent overdose of narcotics. Unusual sayings were carved throughout the house stating that it was alive and evil was everywhere.

Several teenagers who found the remote location as a good place to "make-out", encountered hideous screams and grotesque arms which reached out of the walls of the exterior of the house to grab one of the couples.

Local police and Sheriff's Department have had so many reports of strange lights and noises coming from the property, that they now consider the site a regular stopping point on their beats and park at the site on a regular basis in hopes of catching and encountering first-hand what is responsible for the unexplainable reports.

Over the years, psychics, spiritualists and new age followers who have come to the site without permission to investigate, understand or try healing it, have all fled with a nauseating sickness sensing the overwhelming evil forces that occupy the property, calling it a "vile vortex of dark forces".

In the fall of 1995, the property is purchased by a corporation who make public their intent to level all existing structures on the property, perform major excavating and landfill in order to reconstruct other possible businesses on-site, taking advantage of the prime property location.

In October of 1995, a professor of parapsychology from a northern California university, brought four students and two graduate students to investigate the long history of unusual ghostly reports of the house before it is scheduled for demolition. The professor and five of the six students were viciously assaulted and attacked by unknown persons or phenomena while the sixth graduate student was picking up additional equipment. Even with all the various high-tech video equipment used for their investigation, no concrete evidence was documented which could explain who or what was behind the terrifying events that took place all within a couple of hours. Sonoma County Sheriff's Department brought in their Special Investigations Division to thoroughly analyze the crime scene and the video footage but was unable to ascertain any new information. To date, no definitive conclusions have ever been made surrounding the events that took place that late evening.

The corporation has since decided to stop development on the property and is taking offers for purchase of the riverside property. The property remains intact by the same corporation and closed to any and all visitors or individuals.

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Posted 06 September 2016 - 02:42 PM

I guess I should of added so no confusion,  lots of people say its a hoax, and a lot of people think it sounds like Blair Witch Project.  The Blair Witch Project I 100% agree but nobody is trying to copy it,  haystack very similar story and I thought that in 99 when movie came out.  However haystack incident was 1995 when the college students came here and did their investigation.  Prior to that a few years movie people from Hollywood came to Petaluma trying to gather all they could about the place, they stayed for a few days.  

The article has a few little embellishments but the rest is pretty much true.  I know this because I remember some of it.   I have lived here all my life, before me my parents and grandparents.

Thank You ThisIsMeAllUCanC

Ps This is why I am here.  Wanting to know if spirits can make their way down river,  to my house.  I live about mile or so away same street

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Posted 06 September 2016 - 03:29 PM

Who was the professor that supposedly got attacked ?

Found it. Read the comments, sounds like an urban myth http://spookyweirdne...a5-ff962a9ce8ff
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Posted 06 September 2016 - 05:25 PM

It is not an urban legend.  The mans name I believe is Rick Williams ucla.  Do you need students \names?  One of them is a Hollywood director/producer now.  Things that make you go hmmmm

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Posted 06 September 2016 - 05:40 PM

I'm not 100% of Professors name I better check before I make a mistake and look like I'm fibbing lol

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Posted 07 September 2016 - 10:45 PM

 ThisIsMeAllUCanC, on 06 September 2016 - 02:42 PM, said:



Ps This is why I am here.  Wanting to know if spirits can make their way down river,

I hope you decide to stick around ThisIsMeAllUCanC.  Welcome to the Forums.  You have lots of energy, it kinda spills out.  I had never considered this as a possibility of any kind until I went to work in a public building and had more trouble than I had never known before in my entire life and have never come across another like it.  The phenomena it produced was never ending, complete with full bodied apparitions but it wasn't the spooks who made it the most miserable place on the face of the earth but how it affected the people who worked on the Northeast side.  I was at my wits end and consulted with a friend who had a friend that believed the land could effect the building and consequently fill a place with bad juju. (energy)

I had nothing to lose.  I gave him the address and he went to work.  It didn't cost me a dime and he provided me with maps, history and where the problem started.  It was all very interesting and I went to the source literally to see where the problem was originating.  It was a cemetery.  One they had left intact and developed the land around it over time yet in the process changed the course of the groundwater which naturally ran beneath the cemetery and had been rerouted during construction over the years until it made its way to the building I worked in and beyond.  So that's why we flood all the time!  That building is still flooding to this day!

To make a long story short, that cemetery wasn't a very happy place, consequently all that negative energy made its way to us.  Now he told me what to do and I did it, no questions asked because I was desperate.  Did it work?  Yes.  It worked so well it blew the waterline into the building.  We will call that a coincident.  I didn't have anymore trouble after that except for my boss thinking that I had something to do with that line burst.  Who can say?  lol

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Posted 08 September 2016 - 07:54 AM

Sounds like a horror film in the vein of The Blair Witch Project.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0400533/
The IMDB even lists it as "Horror, Thriller" and not "Documentary".

Sounds like a bunch of people trying to recreate the "Blair Witch" magic (complete with a similar viral campaign).

Also; While I'm open to the concept of malevolent entities that hurt people, the premise sounds far-fetched....A mysterious force that kills each person, one-by-one. Sounds like a horror cliché.

That said; I am by no means judging our new member, ThisIsMeAllUCanC, nor do I wish to disparage their passion for the Paranormal. I imagine they (using 'they' as a gender-neutral pronoun like 'he' or 'she' since 'they/their/they're' seems to be catching on as a singular, gender-less pronoun, recently as opposed to stuff like 'zie/zir' or whatever.) might be young and new to this. It's like me many years ago when I first got into this ghostie-stuff on the Web.

Some who have been here for years, who are still here, may remember me as Ms.Stinkerbelle75. My posts had a The Bugaloos/Faery/Tinkerbell theme and I would go overboard with the emojis and multiple colors in my words. I was new to the web and JUST HAD to take advantage of the goodies available in the Comment-Writing thingy.

Back then; I pretty much took every photo/EVP/evidence/Ghost-investigation TV show at face-value. I accepted camera straps and hairs as "vortexes" and never considered stuff like fakery, camera glitches, or paredolia. I didn't examine EVERYTHING on a case by case basis.

Now; I know that "vortexes" are camera straps & hair, most orbs are dust or snow, the TV shows are often half-true or whole lies and that not everything on The History Channel or The Discovery Channel is legitimately educational.

Over time; I learned to be more discriminating. I may have become a bummer to realize that good evidence is rarer than I thought (and some 'famous ghost photos' have since been proven to be hoaxes, like the 'Wem Hall Fire Girl' who turned out to be a Turn-of-the-20th-Century girl on an old postcard shopped into a photo of the burning Wem Hall).

Anyhoo. Welcome to GhostStudy/Paranormal Soup, ThisIsMeAllUCanC! So happy to meet someone new to the world of THE PARANORMAL! We're very friendly here and we don't do trolls. This is a very safe space and we're all your pals.
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Posted 08 September 2016 - 12:41 PM

The only thing I can find about Professor Richard Williams UCLA is this:

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Richard Stanley Williams (born 1951) is research scientist in the field of nanotechnology and a Senior Fellow and the founding director of the Quantum Science Research Laboratory at Hewlett-Packard. He has over 57 patents, with 40 more patents pending.[1] At HP, he led a group that developed a working solid state version of Leon Chua's memristor.[2][3]
Williams earned a bachelor's degree in chemical physics in 1974 from Rice University and a Ph.D. in physical chemistry from the University of California, Berkeley in 1978. After graduating, he worked at Bell Labs before joining the faculty at UCLA, where he served as a professor from 1980 to 1995. He then joined HP Labs as director of its Information and Quantum Systems Lab.[4]

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Also, there was a movie made about this subject. The movie was released in 1999. There is a cast member listed as Rick Williams.

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Video footage from several different cameras is found and pieced together by Sonoma County Sheriff's investigators to help in finding who or what is responsible for a mysterious horrific multiple slaying. The footage follows a group of students and their instructor as they investigate a secluded notoriously haunted house. Disturbing unexplainable events take place, until the unseen phenomena picks them off, one by one. Written by Real Horror Films

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Posted 08 September 2016 - 11:12 PM

Hello Everyone

Love your story Incubus ( I think It was Incubus, With An Explosion, In the Waterline pipe)  <<<Like Clue>>>>

Your correct incubus I am a fiery ball of Italian ( Woman ) so no confusion about ThisIsMeAllUCanC being ,..This,That or The other thing.

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Posted 09 September 2016 - 12:19 AM

My cat posted that dang it.  Iwasnt finished

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  Sorry Dear I am m older and have more common sense that 10 people.  I also should be a detective.  I won't say anything for fact unless it is.  If I a not sure, I say I think,   that way I am never wrong....its simple but brilliant.   I make sure I do my homework, because I have a thing about guessing truths.   When I was young my sisters would get into fights about who was right and wrong they usually both were wrong.  Then just act like it was nothing,  it drove me crazy.  To me it sounded like they were already having gambling problems lol  I nailed that one.

I have co-owned my own board it wasn't for Paranormal but it did have over 5,000 members.   Funny thing I couldn't for the life of me figure out how to open a room now or post a picture lol.   My job was getting Sponsors to pay for board and give members free $ to spend at their sites in contests we ran for them.
You are absolutely correct about Blair Witch does sound like Haystack.  It might have something to do with the film makers and other hollyweird people in Petaluma gathering all info on haystack in 1990's.  They said they were going to make a movie but nothing every came of it.  It was a few years later Blair Witch came out and lo and behold sounds familiar.

Its not a hoax, well I am not sure of everything said on web but for most part its correct.

After professor and students were terrified there the Sheriffs did their investigation (however it was only for students experience at that time. Where they brought in specialist to assist them....finally came up with inconclusive or something to that degree.  There is much more things out there on Haystack but its here in Petaluma.   For instance in 1952 Mr Keller lays out plans for town, everyone told him to leave haystack off of the map, he took their advice and left the area off the map or any place close to it.  However we have family maps with it on it and that was in late 1800's.  BUSTED!!! My father would be 100 right now here had me in his 60's, he lived here his life here and he told us stories that his dad told him.  Always told to stay away from the place.

Now I am all over this like fly's on honey....I am going to dig until I find out what is up with this place.  I'm obsessed.

Sorry about my typing I do it two fingers, and about 100 words a hour so I am not going to correct it.  I hope you are able to read my Typonese.  How clever I am I have my own style of typing

Thank you everyone for welcome,  I am happier than a clam in high tide to be here

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Posted 09 September 2016 - 09:39 AM

Looks like they  are developing Haystack Landing, or at least naming a development after it   http://patch.com/cal...ing-everybody-0
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Posted 09 September 2016 - 01:15 PM

I don't want to turn blue from holding my breath.

I cant even keep up where he is talking about 3 different places.  The map doesn't look right but is hard to read maps for me anyways.

What I don't get is why is he speaking at all, when he wasn't even there?   Because he has sat at other tables?  I have watch a few brain surgeries, however,  I am not going to speak of it like I'm a credible on that subject.   Also I didn't really hear anything about the past stories.  Is Petaluma going to recognize haystack now?  and its ugly past?  I will tell you there will be a huge uproar over this if they don't take some actions to heal that place.

I think you have motivated me to take a trip down town to see what this is about.  Even though I have seen this article before,,  I figured it was just someone mouthing off.

Bottom line what scares me is if they don't take precautions to clear the bad juju it will hurt people.   30 men were burned to death in one structure,  image the damage it could be in parking garage.

Anyways thank you for post you have motivated me
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Posted 10 September 2016 - 04:59 AM

 ThisIsMeAllUCanC, on 08 September 2016 - 11:12 PM, said:

Hello Everyone

Your correct incubus I am a fiery ball of Italian ( Woman ) so no confusion about ThisIsMeAllUCanC being ,..This,That or The other thing.

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Posted 10 September 2016 - 06:48 AM

 ThisIsMeAllUCanC, on 09 September 2016 - 12:19 AM, said:

My cat posted that dang it.  Iwasnt finished

Spunykitty

  Sorry Dear I am m older and have more common sense that 10 people.  I also should be a detective.  I won't say anything for fact unless it is.  If I a not sure, I say I think,   that way I am never wrong....its simple but brilliant.   I make sure I do my homework, because I have a thing about guessing truths.   When I was young my sisters would get into fights about who was right and wrong they usually both were wrong.  Then just act like it was nothing,  it drove me crazy.  To me it sounded like they were already having gambling problems lol  I nailed that one.

I have co-owned my own board it wasn't for Paranormal but it did have over 5,000 members.   Funny thing I couldn't for the life of me figure out how to open a room now or post a picture lol.   My job was getting Sponsors to pay for board and give members free $ to spend at their sites in contests we ran for them.
You are absolutely correct about Blair Witch does sound like Haystack.  It might have something to do with the film makers and other hollyweird people in Petaluma gathering all info on haystack in 1990's.  They said they were going to make a movie but nothing every came of it.  It was a few years later Blair Witch came out and lo and behold sounds familiar.

Its not a hoax, well I am not sure of everything said on web but for most part its correct.

After professor and students were terrified there the Sheriffs did their investigation (however it was only for students experience at that time. Where they brought in specialist to assist them....finally came up with inconclusive or something to that degree.  There is much more things out there on Haystack but its here in Petaluma.   For instance in 1952 Mr Keller lays out plans for town, everyone told him to leave haystack off of the map, he took their advice and left the area off the map or any place close to it.  However we have family maps with it on it and that was in late 1800's.  BUSTED!!! My father would be 100 right now here had me in his 60's, he lived here his life here and he told us stories that his dad told him.  Always told to stay away from the place.

Now I am all over this like fly's on honey....I am going to dig until I find out what is up with this place.  I'm obsessed.

Sorry about my typing I do it two fingers, and about 100 words a hour so I am not going to correct it.  I hope you are able to read my Typonese.  How clever I am I have my own style of typing

Thank you everyone for welcome,  I am happier than a clam in high tide to be here

Night Night :investigate: :th_evil:




Thank you for welcome and be sure I am no troll lol  I am happy to be here:)

Love the jewelry I have a thing for jewelry as well

Oops! I'm sorry.

Welcome to Ghoststudy, anyway.

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Posted 11 September 2016 - 12:04 PM

I love your picture incubus

No Problem SpunkyKitty
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Posted 11 September 2016 - 12:22 PM

Who is incubus??
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Posted 11 September 2016 - 12:25 PM

 ThisIsMeAllUCanC, on 11 September 2016 - 12:04 PM, said:

I love your picture incubus ...

Hi ThisIsMeAllUCanC, I just want to let you to know, her user name is Menet, not incubus. At the time she originally posted, her rank was Incubus, just as your current rank is Cold Spot. Those titles are to show, how many postings you've made. ;)
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Posted 11 September 2016 - 12:37 PM

haha thanks, earthbound spirit! ;)    I was confused
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Posted 11 September 2016 - 06:40 PM

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Posted 11 September 2016 - 09:03 PM

I can't find a single article about the site prior to the movie, all the the articles mention the movie in the very first sections of the articles.
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In particular I'm finding several dead links (movie promotional stuff?)   and I'm thinking it was doing the same cashing in on people being unclear as to whether it was fiction or not that Blair Witch did.

Secondarily, for something reputed to be "the Most Haunted House In The World" I'd never heard of it before the movie. Heck, I don't think I've heard of it before now.
It also doesn't seem to be listed in any of the Holzer books either, and he travelled all over documenting haunted houses.  If there was a claim of "Most Haunted House In The World" I'd have thought he'd probably have stopped there at some point.


from: http://www.sacredson...acklanding.html

"Although the "Incident at Haystack Landing" makers claim the Petaluma Historical Society does not recognize the site as an historic place, the society has kept good tabs on the property. As far as its historians know, none of the events described on the Web site ever took place, according to Benanti. I was unable to get in touch with the film's producers or obtain a copy of the film. Nobody at the historical society has seen it, Benanti said."

Edited by trin, 11 September 2016 - 09:07 PM.

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