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#1 aben3

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Posted 16 January 2017 - 11:03 AM

Any thoughts on parasomnia (abnormal feelings, perception, behavior and dreams that occur during all different cycles of sleep) and distinguishing this and paranormal activity? i have read often that the activity is highest around 3am, yet perception gets incredibly foggy during falling asleep, sleeping, and waking.

Here's my prompt for my curiosity if you're interested:

there's only mild activity in my home anymore (never more than moderate at its most intense) but it seems to me that some of the activity that i experience has to do with my sleeping. i have heard from someone close to me that he would be woken up just as he would fall asleep by whatever was staying in his house. often when i have a hard time falling asleep (often late) as i finally reach that brink of sleep, my smoke alarm above my bed chirps, waking me up with a surge of adrenaline from fear as it feels like somethings with me, pestering me. I switched the smoke detector, and the batteries, no difference. since its the closest alarm to the kitchen i dont feel comfortable unplugging it. but it wakes me at such frustrating times (when my anxiety is high and I'm finally falling asleep) so often that i can't write it off like i try to do.

about 10 months ago, there was a repeated pattern during my sleep. for about four weeks, once a week (roughly) i would be woken up by a tapping sound, i would describe like an almost empty shampoo bottle, being lightly pounded on the counter in the kitchen. being a light sleeper, and having a small apartment, this seems loud. the first night, upon hearing this sound, i woke up, sitting straight up, yelling "SHUT UP!!!" and just already knowing i wasn't yelling at my cat. after processing this (and realizing my cat was on the bed as usual) i immediately became scared because it has only been a couple years since ive accepted the concept of "ghosts" and the fact that i have very little knowledge on the subject or on protection.

anyways, this happened two more times. The last time was different though, instead of in the kitchen, it was about 5 feet away from me.

this one FREAKED ME OUT, so horribly! because it seemed to happen in front of my face. i shot straight up and immediately thought "THAT WAS ALL IN YOUR HEAD! you made up that sound and you woke yourself up, silly! none of this is real!" and i was calm and went back to sleep. later when i woke up, i was scared again, feeling that something external DID wake me up and (???) i sound crazy but possibly influenced me to not be scared? as if, upon seeing my horrible reaction made me flip my fear switch off so i logically wrote it off and pretend it wasnt real? or it just wanted me to be confused and question myself? ugh i hate the self doubt haha. that was the last time i heard that sound.

Some time before this, i had a somewhat similar experience. I had stayed up extremely late (probably researching haha) and was trying to sleep in, difficult when I'm sensitive to light and sound. anyway, some sound woke me up. as i was falling asleep, i heard a sound so close, just outside my bedroom door that sounded like a loud thud on the floor, maybe a small human? definitely NOT the weight of a cat, so i couldnt blame him to calm my nerves ;) again, shot out of bed, threw my door open and stealth-mode checked out my apt, not really knowing what to expect, and not at all prepared to see anyone/something. nothing there of course, (thank god) went back to sleep after a bit.

Anyway, deep in my gut, i know something was waking me up and it felt like i was being toyed with.

having previously been an intense skeptic, i understand if people write my stories off, but I would like to discuss the general concept of parasomnia and that foggy space where humans are pretty vulnerable. also the idea that the "veil is thin" late at night so activity is more perceptible.

also, my first day on this forum! happy to be here :)

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Posted 16 January 2017 - 11:18 AM

Honestly,  having lived in an apartment  I'd go to neighbors rather than ghosts.

But since you're concerned about sleep disturbances you should have a physical and see if you can get in for a sleep study.   That would tell you how much is internal and how much is external.

Edited to change area to apartment.   I don't even know how autocorrect did that one.
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Posted 16 January 2017 - 12:29 PM

Curious if you've obtained any evidence other than your own anecdotal experiences. Sometimes the obvious is not initially obvious in a case. It would rule in your favor and offer comfort if you were able to attach a natural cause. Paranormal experiences most often are rare. They most certainly do exist but natural causes initially overlooked tend to be the root of the problem. Good luck with obtaining closure.

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Posted 16 January 2017 - 12:59 PM

oh i absolutely hear you, I'm not currently sitting here freaking out that i have a ghost based off of these few experiences and want you to tell me if you think my place is "haunted" but rather, id like to see if anyone has any thoughts, theories, or experiences of their own of being toyed with while sleeping, or confusion around that. Just thought it was an interesting discussion topic.

I'm not worried, and I'm not going to do anything about it, just thought id share a few things that have gone on around here and what instigated my curiosity :)

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Posted 16 January 2017 - 01:43 PM

Well I have all sorts of sleep disturbances.   I talk in my sleep when I'm not getting quality sleep (which is sometimes amusing,  often quite embarrassing and occasionally traumatic for the other people in the house when it decides to come out as a scream out of nowhere).   I also have hypnogogic jerks...  pretty often I will twitch as I'm crossing the threshold to sleep.   Some it's a little shiver,  sometimes my entire body will lift off the bed.  And I have an overdeveloped vigilance when I'm asleep.   It took me years to convince my husband to just do stuff (without making undue noise) instead of trying to sneak around being quiet.   If he doesn't sneak I subconsciously know what the sound is and continue sleeping.   If he sneaks around I wake up in a blind panic because danger.
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Posted 16 January 2017 - 01:57 PM

Wow! that's really interesting.. in your sleep you can sense his sneakiness and it makes you so uneasy you wake up? that's fascinating. sometimes my partner wakes up and tells me she's feeling super bad vibes and feels something bad might happen. I do consider her to be more sensitive than me so its interesting because I don't ever feel that uncomfortable here generally. my last roommate who stayed in our room for a year hated the room, her and her boyfriend left so fast in the middle of the night once because they both woke up separately to the sound of heavy breathing from someone standing by the door and after a minute or so realized the other was awake and paralyzed with fear too. luckily we've never heard that!

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Posted 16 January 2017 - 03:07 PM

It's less that I can sense the intent (if I were sensing intent it wouldn't bother me) than I can still hear someone's there and my brain goes "sneaky noises!   someone's creeping up on you!   danger!   danger!"  It's sleep hypervigilance.
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Posted 16 January 2017 - 05:59 PM

View PostTantric KittenGStudy, on 16 January 2017 - 01:43 PM, said:

Well I have all sorts of sleep disturbances.   I talk in my sleep when I'm not getting quality sleep (which is sometimes amusing,  often quite embarrassing and occasionally traumatic for the other people in the house when it decides to come out as a scream out of nowhere).   I also have hypnogogic jerks...  pretty often I will twitch as I'm crossing the threshold to sleep.   Some it's a little shiver,  sometimes my entire body will lift off the bed.  And I have an overdeveloped vigilance when I'm asleep.   It took me years to convince my husband to just do stuff (without making undue noise) instead of trying to sneak around being quiet.   If he doesn't sneak I subconsciously know what the sound is and continue sleeping.   If he sneaks around I wake up in a blind panic because danger.

I'm the same way Tantric. My Mom found out the hard way, when she tried to wake me up once. That one time she came in quietly, I almost hit her. When I'm startled awake, I come to swinging. I have a very strong fight or flight reflex. I think it's because of my own home's haunting. So, now she'll call my name from the bedroom door, if she wants to wake me up

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Posted 16 January 2017 - 06:39 PM

during your home's haunting, have you been messed with while sleeping? or do you just feel more on edge and that's why the "fight" instinct came out?

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Posted 16 January 2017 - 07:03 PM

Yes, they've messed with me. I've felt them sit on my bed, shove the mattress, brush past my feet, squeeze my big toe, breathe into my ear, groan, growl(for want of a better word), laugh, call my name, yell HEY! into my ear, pull my quilt, knock and/or tap on my door and door frame, etc. It's annoying as heck, but I've learned to live with it. I've lived in this house my whole life and these spirits have been around from day one.

If you'd like to read about my homes haunting, you can find it here. http://www.paranorma...opic=23708&st=0

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Posted 16 January 2017 - 11:29 PM

Definitely check yourself out with a physical and if you can, see if anyone else is experiencing similar things in the complex. I know it's noisy and there's been some strange things experienced in my new apartment but it's 99% of the time attributable to someone doing something weird in their apartment!
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Posted 27 January 2017 - 10:36 AM

when i say apartment, its the upper half of a duplex. my downstairs neighbors (they have such high ceilings, all i ever hear is when they play loud music or are hammering) have told me they hear loud things and that they find the faucets on often (i do as well) but since i don't understand plumbing, i cant really feel like i know they experience the same things too.
After MacCGstudy's experiences while trying to sleep, i have to say I'm not worried or even annoyed about my problems, haha.
I do still think its fascinating, and id love to hear more experiences while sleeping or in bed.
i will definitely consider seeing a sleep specialist if things get worse to see if i can find a good explanation.
Thanks for all of the great replies!





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