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[Guardian]

While doing some reading on shadow people, I have noticed that there seems to be some disagreement on whether their purpose is helpful, harmful, or indifferent.  It has also been theorized that shadow people are interdimensional travelers, either caught there or moving about freely.

What are your thoughts on shadow people?  What is their purpose?  Do they mean us harm or are they just observers in our lives?

[KlaineyGStudy]

  I can remember North had a good take on them I will look tomorrow after work; need to get to otherwise I will look a

[EVP]

Hope you don't mind but this is from a posting from myself in 2019. I'm going to paste from the thread I started 10/17/2019.

I've shared this story before and it comes partially from a transcript back in 2015.

My first visual collective experience was in my twenties. I had a group of people over on a Friday night and we began to share stories that were creepy or unexplained. I wasn’t at the time involved in paranormal studies but I had a few stories to share as well. Everyone took their turn in the circle until it came to Gary.

Gary was always the one who caught the biggest fish, climbed a taller mountain and sometimes we wondered if he might tell us he changed in a phone booth and has saved Louis Lane before. Needless to say we never took him too seriously but he was a good guy who we enjoyed hearing STORIES from.

Nothing short of a couple of seconds the drama started with the statement “I have something that follows me around and it doesn’t matter how many times I move, it eventually finds me!”

When prodding for details and asked “What do you think it is?”, he said, I don’t really know, all I can tell you is that it occasionally makes an appearance and catches me off guard. The way it surprises me, always manages to scare me.

All of us soon forgot his stories but moving ahead five years I was sharing a house with several friends and Gary stayed there for a while as a tenant later into the lease when others moved out.

I remember distinctly it being a Monday morning at 9:00 am. We both had the day off and wanted to go to the mall. Gary needed to grab his wallet that was down in the basement in his bedroom so I followed him down and proceeded to sit on the couch.

I could plainly see him from where I was sitting as he continued to struggle looking in his sock drawer that was squeezed tightly to the wall in the Chester drawers very close to the bedroom door.

Both of us we’re making eye contact when the next event happened. A black amorphous translucent shape slide out behind the Chester drawers and began expanding and encompassing the majority of the doorway. It hung there for what seemed like an eternity but was likely no more than 10 seconds.

His eyes were the size of saucers and you could see he was physically distressed. The shapeless shadow dissipated and a few seconds later Gary had asked if I saw it as well. Without influencing his STORY I asked him to describe it with detail without immediately sharing my event. What he described seemed very close to the same experience I had. This is where he pointed out; remember when I told you about this many years ago? This is what I was talking about.

To be critical, I am not going to label what it was because I honestly don’t know other than it was unexplainable and it was collective with close to exactly the same shared experience.

About ten years ago I was exploring the metaphysical world and made contact with several mediums along the way. I know; psychics and medium, what a “red herring” but my idle curiosity has been my trap.

I have asked three mediums on three separate occasions, and they all interrupted halfway through and said the same thing. According to them, Gary wasn’t a very good person when he was younger and taunted the other side many times when using an Ouija board. All the same words, “He has an attachment and the only way it’s going to end is a change in life style or a cleansing.

I'm not sure if others would classify it as a shadow person. It was shapeless, black and semi-transparent. Some of the visual characteristics apply while the shapeless part does not. The fact that this was a collective experience makes it a hard sell as a hallucination. Although the pure skeptics would still call this a "collective hallucination". If this never happened to me personally, I wouldn't hold much credibility to it. I need to experience events myself personally to acknowledge things even as a half truth.

Edited by EVP, 28 September 2022 - 01:30 PM.

[Guardian]

EVP, on 28 September 2022 - 01:25 PM, said:

Hope you don't mind but this is from a posting from myself in 2019. I'm going to paste from the thread I started 10/17/2019.

I've shared this story before and it comes partially from a transcript back in 2015.

My first visual collective experience was in my twenties. I had a group of people over on a Friday night and we began to share stories that were creepy or unexplained. I wasn’t at the time involved in paranormal studies but I had a few stories to share as well. Everyone took their turn in the circle until it came to Gary.

Gary was always the one who caught the biggest fish, climbed a taller mountain and sometimes we wondered if he might tell us he changed in a phone booth and has saved Louis Lane before. Needless to say we never took him too seriously but he was a good guy who we enjoyed hearing STORIES from.

Nothing short of a couple of seconds the drama started with the statement “I have something that follows me around and it doesn’t matter how many times I move, it eventually finds me!”

When prodding for details and asked “What do you think it is?”, he said, I don’t really know, all I can tell you is that it occasionally makes an appearance and catches me off guard. The way it surprises me, always manages to scare me.

All of us soon forgot his stories but moving ahead five years I was sharing a house with several friends and Gary stayed there for a while as a tenant later into the lease when others moved out.

I remember distinctly it being a Monday morning at 9:00 am. We both had the day off and wanted to go to the mall. Gary needed to grab his wallet that was down in the basement in his bedroom so I followed him down and proceeded to sit on the couch.

I could plainly see him from where I was sitting as he continued to struggle looking in his sock drawer that was squeezed tightly to the wall in the Chester drawers very close to the bedroom door.

Both of us we’re making eye contact when the next event happened. A black amorphous translucent shape slide out behind the Chester drawers and began expanding and encompassing the majority of the doorway. It hung there for what seemed like an eternity but was likely no more than 10 seconds.

His eyes were the size of saucers and you could see he was physically distressed. The shapeless shadow dissipated and a few seconds later Gary had asked if I saw it as well. Without influencing his STORY I asked him to describe it with detail without immediately sharing my event. What he described seemed very close to the same experience I had. This is where he pointed out; remember when I told you about this many years ago? This is what I was talking about.

To be critical, I am not going to label what it was because I honestly don’t know other than it was unexplainable and it was collective with close to exactly the same shared experience.

About ten years ago I was exploring the metaphysical world and made contact with several mediums along the way. I know; psychics and medium, what a “red herring” but my idle curiosity has been my trap.

I have asked three mediums on three separate occasions, and they all interrupted halfway through and said the same thing. According to them, Gary wasn’t a very good person when he was younger and taunted the other side many times when using an Ouija board. All the same words, “He has an attachment and the only way it’s going to end is a change in life style or a cleansing.

I'm not sure if others would classify it as a shadow person. It was shapeless, black and semi-transparent. Some of the visual characteristics apply while the shapeless part does not. The fact that this was a collective experience makes it a hard sell as a hallucination. Although the pure skeptics would still call this a "collective hallucination". If this never happened to me personally, I wouldn't hold much credibility to it. I need to experience events myself personally to acknowledge things even as a half truth.

That is a great story, EVP! Did Gary ever try a cleansing or to change his ways? Did he understand that he was the likely cause of this?

[EVP]

Gary was living with his GF at the house we rented. They moved out once their relationship went south. Years later I met up with him and he invited over to his new address. I asked him about whether he had any visits since moving and he became manic and refused to utter another word about it. I could tell by his reaction, he was angry that I brought it up which to me was telling. Unfortunately we never saw each other after that short visit. I knew things were different and much like other people that come into your life, they also disappear just as quickly.

Reminds me of the sasquatch encounter I had, I'm sorry there is no proof of it happening. Only words. For what it's worth, it's from some of my previous experiences I ended up here at PS and continue to study and research. I just wish there was some proof of it happening. It's frustrating, I've had enough events to stay convinced there are things out there without proof. The one telling piece of evidence came from a recording alone in my own house where a woman at 3:15AM called out my first and last name. That's not a radio snippet. No one knew to call out my name while I was recording but something did.

Edited by EVP, 28 September 2022 - 04:54 PM.

[Gothickangel]

I have nic named why spirits to me show up in the dark, as a thin light aura outline around their bodies. And not being viewable them with the light on as, their invisibilty cloak. The modern tech for that does the same thing, light goes around it and they look invisible in it.
So I see shadow people as a few options, based on what I've experienced and some sci fi kinda thinking.
One it is their shadow, you just cant see the actualy body.
Interdemensional as in two realities merging for a bit occupying the same space.
A few times, dark souls whos become corrupt and pretend to be scary demons.

[Guardian]

EVP, on 28 September 2022 - 04:14 PM, said:

Gary was living with his GF at the house we rented. They moved out once their relationship went south. Years later I met up with him and he invited over to his new address. I asked him about whether he had any visits since moving and he became manic and refused to utter another word about it. I could tell by his reaction, he was angry that I brought it up which to me was telling. Unfortunately we never saw each other after that short visit. I knew things were different and much like other people that come into your life, they also disappear just as quickly.

It’s too bad that you never got any further explanation from him.  That situation would have definitely been worth discussing to me!  Although, I can say that if I had known that I had caused an issue like that, I don’t know that I would want to face it, either!

Gothickangel, on 29 September 2022 - 07:55 AM, said:

I have nic named why spirits to me show up in the dark, as a thin light aura outline around their bodies. And not being viewable them with the light on as, their invisibilty cloak. The modern tech for that does the same thing, light goes around it and they look invisible in it.
So I see shadow people as a few options, based on what I've experienced and some sci fi kinda thinking.
One it is their shadow, you just cant see the actualy body.
Interdemensional as in two realities merging for a bit occupying the same space.
A few times, dark souls whos become corrupt and pretend to be scary demons.

So, to you, shadow people are like a “normal” haunting in that there are many possibilities for their existence.  Just as if a spirit may be residual, intelligent, or somewhere in between, a shadow person may be any of those, also.

Interesting!

[Vlawde]

Pretty much what Gothickangel said. Them being an actual shadow of a body we can't see is an interesting thought. Likely interdimensional entities, not sure if they were ever human or something else

[KlaineyGStudy]

True North, on 14 July 2018 - 07:53 PM, said:

Most 'shadow person thingies' have no more of a body than the shadow you see. Out of these entities, known to most people as simply 'shadow people', there's a wide range of self-awareness and intelligence depending on their stage of development.

Those in the earlier stages of their development will almost always dart out of sight and keep to people's peripheral.

The ones which don't move out of sight are usually more evolved and have developed a greater sense of themselves and what they want, or, they are more than meets the eye and actually have a form beyond the shadow you see (i.e. they're NOT what most people know as 'shadow people', they're something else entirely).

I Just wish North was here to elaborate more on this; I think it an interesting topic!

[WhispersInTheAttic]

This topic has always intrigued me, since I tend to have dreams of shadow people. I've always wondered what their intent would be.

Is there any books with more information on this subject? I'd like to read one if there's any. Let me know.

[KlaineyGStudy]

WhispersInTheAttic, on 11 October 2022 - 01:09 PM, said:

This topic has always intrigued me, since I tend to have dreams of shadow people. I've always wondered what their intent would be.

Is there any books with more information on this subject? I'd like to read one if there's any. Let me know.

Darkness Walks: The Shadow People Among Us

[Yaridovich]

WhispersInTheAttic, on 11 October 2022 - 01:09 PM, said:

This topic has always intrigued me, since I tend to have dreams of shadow people. I've always wondered what their intent would be.

Hey, would you by any chance know how to give me dreams about shadow people?

[EVP]

Yaridovich, on 12 October 2022 - 07:43 AM, said:

Hey, would you by any chance know how to give me dreams about shadow people?

Sleep deprivation might encourage these visitations but at a great cost to your health.

[Guardian]

Yaridovich, on 12 October 2022 - 07:43 AM, said:

Hey, would you by any chance know how to give me dreams about shadow people?

Man, this seems like Ouija-boards levels of playing with fire to me!

[EVP]

Guardian, on 13 October 2022 - 09:04 AM, said:

Man, this seems like Ouija-boards levels of playing with fire to me!

Reminds me of Zozo a once very hot topic.

http://zozotheouijaspirit.blogspot.com

I'm mostly skeptic as you well know but I won't have anything to do with Ouija boards. The story concerning Gary sealed that deal.

Edited by EVP, 13 October 2022 - 03:36 PM.

[LouczarGStudy]

Sadly, Gary's story is probably not unique.  FAR TOO many youth have played with a Ouija board and not really understanding what they are doing.  Yes, a friend and I played with one once when we were 13.  after asking a few questions and the board piece moved around with us both touching it.  My friend Tommy looked at me and said It feels like you were moving it as I said the same thing.  We looked at the board and put it up.  I never touched one again.

To this day.  over 40 years later.  I can still see Tommy's face and hear him say it all again.  That undeniable feeling after Tommy said it that neither of us wanted to mess with the board again.

[EVP]

LouczarGStudy, on 19 October 2022 - 05:52 AM, said:

Sadly, Gary's story is probably not unique.  FAR TOO many youth have played with a Ouija board and not really understanding what they are doing.  Yes, a friend and I played with one once when we were 13.  after asking a few questions and the board piece moved around with us both touching it.  My friend Tommy looked at me and said It feels like you were moving it as I said the same thing.  We looked at the board and put it up.  I never touched one again.

To this day.  over 40 years later.  I can still see Tommy's face and hear him say it all again.  That undeniable feeling after Tommy said it that neither of us wanted to mess with the board again.

So many state the movement is caused by the ideomotor from the participants. That might be true according to the skeptics but what causes the physical manifestation that Gary and I experienced? That part isn't so easily explained in my opinion. The definition of a haunting is a series of events that disrupts human activity. Assuming Gary continues to be caught off guard to this day by these unannounced appearances, I can confidently say Gary is/was haunted.

[LouczarGStudy]

EVP, on 19 October 2022 - 06:39 AM, said:

Assuming Gary continues to be caught off guard to this day by these unannounced appearances, I can confidently say Gary is/was haunted.

My wife and I had the same discussion about  our youngest daughter.  The fact that she claimed to "played with friends" in her room as a 2+ year old way back when.  The fact that nothing was noticed by anyone else in the house after she moved out is a significant event or NON event for my house.

[Guardian]

LouczarGStudy, on 19 October 2022 - 09:31 AM, said:

My wife and I had the same discussion about  our youngest daughter.  The fact that she claimed to "played with friends" in her room as a 2+ year old way back when.  The fact that nothing was noticed by anyone else in the house after she moved out is a significant event or NON event for my house.

I stand by my belief that infants/toddlers have a better channel of communication with the spirit world because they haven’t been taught that “ghosts aren’t real” yet.  They believe what they see, so if a spirit wants attention, appearing to someone who will acknowledge their existence is more worth the energy than trying to convince someone who will look for a scientific explanation.

[True North]

A few questions EVP:

Did your friend appear frustrated when searching for his wallet?

EVP, on 28 September 2022 - 01:25 PM, said:

... began expanding and encompassing the majority of the doorway.

When it expanded did it also become more opaque?

EVP, on 28 September 2022 - 01:25 PM, said:

The shapeless shadow dissipated...

Meaning it spread out / dispersed? Or did it only fade out?