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Posted 18 February 2005 - 04:59 AM

I was checking out the coast2coat site this morning and they had this image up and said the image was not tampered with and was taken straight from a Kodak dc240 zoom digicam. It look so PhotoShopped and badly done at that, I decided to try that EXIF program on it.

Here is the link to the photo.

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Here are the results from the EXIF program.

Filename : reiki0217a.jpg
JFIF_APP14 : Photoshop 3.0
JFIF_APP15 : Adobe
AdobeResource
Resolution
FX Global Lighting Angle
FX Global Altitude
Print Flags : 10Byte
Copyright Flag
Japanese Print Flags
Color Halftone Settings : 72Byte
Color Transfer Settings : 112Byte
Guides
URL overrides : 4Byte
Slices
ICC Untagged Flag : 2Byte
Layer ID Generator Base : 4Byte
New Windows Thumbnail : JPEG Format (Offset:832Size:3282)
Thumbnail Type : JPEG
Thumnail Width : 101
Thumbnail Height : 112
Version compatibility info
JPEG Quality
Error

Eclectic or  Reddrum (or anyone else who knows this program)~ With the info above it is telling me that the image was tampered with in Adobe and they played with the Color Halftone. Is this right? So it is “very” likely that this photo was fabricated. Right? I don't have this Adobe program so I can't check out what this program can do.

Just trying to learn more about fabricated photos….



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Posted 18 February 2005 - 05:06 AM

I am not able to discern the EXIF data (yet) but it appears very much fabricated
to me. Adobe makes Photoshop, and the effect in the picture could very easily
be done in Photoshop.

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Posted 18 February 2005 - 05:08 AM

I know nothing at all about photoshop, but I do think it is fabricated, I have never seen anything like this before.

I have seen aura photos, but they don't look like this one.

bizzare.


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Posted 18 February 2005 - 05:36 AM

QUOTE(Mog @ Feb 18 2005, 06:08 AM)
I know nothing at all about photoshop, but I do think it is fabricated, I have never seen anything like this before.

I have seen aura photos, but they don't look like this one.

bizzare.
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Aren’t you supposed to take an aura pic with a special cam any ways? Any how, He will have to be a God to come up with this kind of aura. Lol Aura will show you colors and it changes second to second. I use Adobe and Im 100% sure you can easily get this effect with the program.



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Posted 18 February 2005 - 07:21 AM

The "aura" overlaps the front of the armrest at one point. If this photo was a real aura, light would not appear through the armrest. The top of the armrest looks cut and paste to try and correct some of the lack of 3D appearance from the aura that they missed correcting on the front.

This photo is soooo fabricated.
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Posted 18 February 2005 - 07:40 AM

Saw this pic on the Coast to Coast website (still wanna say Art Bell)

I'm guessing fabricated, but you never know
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Posted 18 February 2005 - 07:56 AM

I'm no expert, but I know what can be done to fabricated a photo with computers, and I know mistakes that can be made if you don't cover up the fabricated properly. This photo looks fabricated to me, simply because of problems with the aura relating to the close armrest.
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Posted 18 February 2005 - 08:16 AM

It is fabricated.  Some of the lighting effects I recognize
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Posted 18 February 2005 - 09:42 AM

Definitely tampered with.

According to the EXIF data, there were layers created and effects used.

Dead giveaway.



BUT, that's just my opinion.

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Posted 18 February 2005 - 10:01 AM

My uncle was doing pioneer research in the 60's with aural photography.  I've seen alot of aural photos, including my own, and none have ever looked like this.  An aura like that would represent the purest spirit form that man can physically attain, basically, God, as PentacleGoddess said.  
The spirit's "aura outlines" overlap, as you can see the darker border between the layers around the spirit body.  Those overlaps are exactly the right shade for the two lighter colors to create when they're overlaid on each other.  
A good example would be to take a wide felt-tip marker, a "medium color" such as orange or that pretty light blue, and draw two lines side by side of the same color.  Let the lines overlap a bit at the edges, and you'll get the same effect as the aural "outline" in this photo.  
There are too many questions that come up when looking at this photo to convince me that it's real.  I'm going to go with some kind of photoshop type program too.  For comparison, here is a photo that was submitted to Ghoststudy a year ago that we felt showed more accurately what a true energy form looks like...I've seen the same with my own eyes, only mine was more detailed:


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Posted 18 February 2005 - 10:08 AM

Complete and utter falderall.  The old Star Trek series did better effects.   dry.gif   I have to keep reminding myself that radio show is just entertainment.  Keeps the blood pressure down.

Edited by Mad Jack, 18 February 2005 - 10:08 AM.


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Posted 18 February 2005 - 10:48 AM

Yeah, in going with fabricated. The EXIF is missing some info... dry.gif . And it was ran through photoshop. And I recoginze some of those effects... wait let me see what I can whip up...user posted image.. Its not quite the same,I don't want to take the time to try to fool people either, but you get the idea, it's not real hard to do..
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Posted 18 February 2005 - 12:05 PM

Heehee, another coast2coast pre-fab.  rolleyes.gif

Benefit of the doubt, it's hard to say exactly what goes on with that site to get their pics up there, programs used for resizing, cropping, etc. and not to mention, this isn't the original directly from the source.  But to be completely honest, no picture that I've seen that has been merely cropped and resized holds that kind of data on the EXIF not to mention that there's not one, but two photoshopping programs listed.

The only thing I could think of that might explain the layering in the EXIF would be if there was a watermark, of which I see no evidence but it also may have been cropped but I am seeing mention of copyright.

Hmm, might be a good idea to try copying another pic from their site (that looks more believable) and running through the EXIF to see what kind of data it holds.  Might give a better idea of whether this is  regular use of their programs or not.

Good eye Seeker,  I think we have a winner.  Shall we write George to tell him your findings? laugh.gif

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Posted 18 February 2005 - 12:26 PM

Thanks for the response everyone! I too believe that  photo was manipulated. I took it into my PaintShopPro program and was basically able to do the same things. I added what looks like a wine bottle sitting on the arm of the sofa with rays coming off of it and everything.  laugh.gif

Mistypoo ~ your photo looks more realistic then the other fabricated photo. Yours seem to have more of a  natural looking glow around it. I like it! Great Job!

Here is my photo with the wine bottle looking thing. It was so easy to do.  biggrin.gif

Added Wine Bottle   laugh.gif

I tried to read the EXIF after I played with the photo and all it said was "Could't open EXIF file".  sad.gif  I wanted to see if it would have said I worked on it in PaintShop pro. I guess I will have to try it on one of my own original photo to see if i would get this info.

Again, Thanks Everyone. I've learned a few things today!  biggrin.gif  



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Posted 18 February 2005 - 12:48 PM

Redrum ~ I am too chicken to write to coast2coast but by all means if you feel like doing it then go right ahead! I will even give you permission to use the photo where I added the wine bottle if you think it is a good enough example on how these kinds of photos are easy to manipulate. I do not have enough experience, or understand, to explain all this EXIF data.

I will try and find other photos like this on his site to see what the EXIF program data gives.

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Posted 18 February 2005 - 01:59 PM

Hmmm… Very strange.. I don’t know if it’s my computer or my PSP (PaintShopPro) program…

I am able to read my EXIF data on my original pics in the folder where they were downloaded straight from my camera.

If I open up the pic in PSP and tell it to “Save As” to my desktop under the same file name and extension (jpg) so that I can play around with it without scraping the original, The EXIF program tells me, “Error, Couldn’t open EXIF file..” I have done nothing to the pic except copy it to my desk top through the PSP program.

I also opened the original pic in PSP, played with it, and then saved it under another name to the desktop and the EXIF still says “Error, Couldn’t open EXIF file..”

Any pic file I bring into PSP and save to another folder I loose all the EXIF data.  sad.gif

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Posted 18 February 2005 - 04:04 PM

I would say definitely fabricated. I work with photos and I know there are many ways to create that effect, it's very easy to do, too.

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Posted 18 February 2005 - 04:39 PM

QUOTE(Mad Jack @ Feb 18 2005, 10:08 AM)
Complete and utter falderall.  The old Star Trek series did better effects.   dry.gif   I have to keep reminding myself that radio show is just entertainment.  Keeps the blood pressure down.

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  Yeah, lots of interesting stuff. but most of it ya gotta take with a grain 9of salt....lots of weirdos and hoaxers


And IMO the website has gome way downhill since it changed from art Bell to AM Coast to Coast.

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Posted 18 February 2005 - 04:59 PM

wow good job on making the same effect! that's identical.. so I feel 100% positive this photo is fab'd.

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Posted 19 February 2005 - 02:15 AM

QUOTE(Mad Jack @ Feb 18 2005, 07:08 PM)
The old Star Trek series did better effects.   dry.gif   

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